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 Post subject: Intel Quark & Galileo
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:34 am 
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Intel is releasing a new processor family called 'quark', designed for 'the internet of things'.
It seems to be ia-32 based and might find it's way into some embedded devices, if the price will be right offcourse.

This galileo board, supposed to be a competitor of the Raspberry Pi, looks like a nice platform for KolibriOS.
(check out the datasheet: http://www.intel.com/support/galileo/index.htm)

http://ark.intel.com/products/79084/Int ... he-400-MHz
http://ark.intel.com/products/78919/Intel-Galileo-Board

EDIT: it's no competitor for the r-PI at all, as this board has no graphics output.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:41 am 
Hi,

is it possible to get kolibrios on one of these devices?

http://hackaday.com/2013/10/03/the-inte ... d-arduino/

Would be cool!


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:38 am 
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Well, that's theoretically possible. Look at 86duino too: http://www.86duino.com/
These will require some work though.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:35 pm 
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Yes, as SoUrcerer said it should be possible, but financially it would make more sense to use a cheaper competitor product 86duino: http://shop.dmp.com.tw/INT/products/23 (it's just 39$, only 4$ more than Raspberry Pi).


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:46 pm 
But the cheaper product has less cpu power and less ram! A standard plattform would be nice!


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:15 pm 
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baggacfreak wrote:
But the cheaper product has less cpu power and less ram! A standard plattform would be nice!
Yes, it has less, but who needs more? I am using KolibriOS on similar CPU for 3 years now, and it works very fast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnlA4ijrTBo
KolibriOS only uses 8MB RAM, so there is little difference between 128MB and 256MB RAM onboard, aside from higher price :-)


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:18 pm 
for video playback and better emulators :D


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:28 pm 
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baggacfreak wrote:
for video playback and better emulators :D
Current video playback in KolibriOS is awful even on much faster processors, but that is because KolibriOS uses VESA for video output. +100MHz won't change anything.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:59 pm 
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Video playback on the device which has no video card? Good luck with that :D

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hidnplayr wrote:
Video playback on the device which has no video card? Good luck with that :D
LOL you spoiled all the fun :lol: Both boards (Galileo and 86duino) have miniPCIe card slot which can be used to install a video card :wink:


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yogev_ezra wrote:
hidnplayr wrote:
Video playback on the device which has no video card? Good luck with that :D
LOL you spoiled all the fun :lol: Both boards (Galileo and 86duino) have miniPCIe card slot which can be used to install a video card :wink:


Yes but what firmware do the devices have? If they have no regular BIOS, there will be no VBE and no VESA, or am I mistaken?

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hidnplayr wrote:
Yes but what firmware do the devices have? If they have no regular BIOS, there will be no VBE and no VESA, or am I mistaken?
Galileo uses Intel's flavor of TianoCore (OpenSource UEFI BIOS), so no idea about that one. 86duino uses Coreboot BIOS which has VBE/VESA modules (like SeaBIOS), so that should be only a matter of compiling their BIOS with correct modules added.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 9:30 pm 
Maybe we should make a new kickstarter campaign to get a standard plattform for all of the kolibrios users and developers. Something like those hdmi sticks that have android on them. What do you think?


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baggacfreak wrote:
Maybe we should make a new kickstarter campaign to get a standard plattform for all of the kolibrios users and developers. Something like those hdmi sticks that have android on them. What do you think?


So we should ask people for money, and then do what exactly with it, develop our own hardware platform?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:06 am 
yes, that is what I meant! If we all use the same cheap hardware it would help both users and developers!

Hardware might be:

Intel based 32Bit CPU > 1GHz
SVGA or HD compatible HDMI
1-2 GB Ram
maybe microsd as storage
USB or Bluetooth keyboard/mouse
(optional crypto chip)

cheap price and open hardware of course!


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