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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 6:50 pm 
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Hello everybody,
I would like to say first that I'm absolutely non-expert when it comes to computer technology.

Few days ago I knew I will have to move from home for a quite long period of time, and therefore I need a laptop in order to keep up to date with stuff like work and news, because i have a computer at home and carrying a tower case, a monitor and all the stuuf connected to it won't be comfortable (I usually prefere laptops over smartphones).
A friend of mine has given me his old laptop (which he doesn't use anymore), but it's an old one from the first 2000s, so its hardware is pretty outdated and his OS too, so we googled up a bit and discovered Kolibri OS. With the specifications that we read, Imagining that old laptop turning on in 10 seconds and running smoothly, well, that would be good.
Another advice: the time isn't that long so I have to consider buying a brand new one.

I was wondering whether Kolibri OS could be suitable for everyday use (whic means surfing the net, reading e-mails, writing some notes and so on, basic things). It doesn't mattrer if the graphic interface isn't that good, I need it to be easy and light and just needing basic things.
I found an old DVD-R at home which used to contain films, but I deleted all the data on it so it has just 500Mb of free space. Can I use this to boot the OS? I don't think it can be booted by my USB pen, and the ones I have are full, so using that would solve another problem.

If you have any suggestions with programs for booting, Kolibri and related things, these would be really pleasing to me.

Thanks to everyone


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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2020 1:45 am 
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I'd really appreciate if someone could help me


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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2020 10:50 am 
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qoniq wrote:
I found an old DVD-R at home which used to contain films, but I deleted all the data on it so it has just 500Mb of free space. Can I use this to boot the OS?
Yes, you can. Use the latest ISO, burn it to CD/DVD like you do for any other OS.

qoniq wrote:
If you have any suggestions with programs for booting, Kolibri and related things, these would be really pleasing to me.
Almost all the programs available for KolibriOS are shipped on ISO, so you don't have to look for and install anything from the internet.

qoniq wrote:
I was wondering whether Kolibri OS could be suitable for everyday use (whic means surfing the net, reading e-mails, writing some notes and so on, basic things).
For web we have Netsurf, for email Liza, for notes Notes. It's for you to decide if it's enough.


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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2020 11:42 am 
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I'll surely give it a try, that looks promising. Does it save things on the Hard Disk or on the RAM?


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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2020 12:15 pm 
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There is RDSAVE program on the desktop to save contents of the ram disk to a file manually.


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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2020 5:54 pm 
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qoniq wrote:
I was wondering whether Kolibri OS could be suitable for everyday use (whic means surfing the net, reading e-mails, writing some notes and so on, basic things).
For web we have Netsurf, for email Liza

I have installed the italian version (I'm italian) on a virtual machine with the help of a friend, and I'm trying Kolibri with rodiculous amounts of RAM (64mb) and it works really well - to be honest, I'm surprised. That is amazing.
But I have some problems too: I can't find Liza anywhere.
Another question: I can't have proper web surfing. It keeps looking up stuff in Russian and it collapses everytime I do a word search with Ctrl+Enter. The window just disappears. I tried to give the system 128Mbs of ram but that didn't work. Netsurf keeps disappearing when I scroll down, and I can find no icon once downloaded it from nsinstall.
I hope it can be solved and I want to know more about Kolibri because I'm really enjoying its speed and smoothness.


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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2020 11:31 pm 
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Liza binary can be found here. It turned to not be in ISO, I don't know why (I'm not the author).
Perhaps, questions about Liza should go to its topic.

qoniq wrote:
I can't have proper web surfing. It keeps looking up stuff in Russian
Well, I managed to change that starting page by following links but I confirm that you can't just type in a URL and press <enter>.

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qoniq wrote:
it collapses everytime I do a word search with Ctrl+Enter. The window just disappears. I tried to give the system 128Mbs of ram but that didn't work. Netsurf keeps disappearing when I scroll down
Unfortunately, ashmew2 (the author) didn't visit this board for more than a year, so don't expect a fast fix.

qoniq wrote:
I can find no icon once downloaded it from nsinstall.
There is no icon, only the binary itself at /tmp0/1/.


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 12:35 am 
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> It keeps looking up stuff in Russian and it collapses everytime I do a word search with Ctrl+Enter.
I will fix it soon.

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qoniq wrote:
Another question: I can't have proper web surfing. It keeps looking up stuff in Russian and it collapses everytime I do a word search with Ctrl+Enter. The window just disappears. I tried to give the system 128Mbs of ram but that didn't work.
I have fixed WebView crash on Ctrl+Enter. Please download the latest version or you can update your browser directly in Kolibri https://prnt.sc/sm1gx1

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 11:20 am 
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Leency wrote:
qoniq wrote:
Another question: I can't have proper web surfing. It keeps looking up stuff in Russian and it collapses everytime I do a word search with Ctrl+Enter. The window just disappears. I tried to give the system 128Mbs of ram but that didn't work.
I have fixed WebView crash on Ctrl+Enter. Please download the latest version or you can update your browser directly in Kolibri https://prnt.sc/sm1gx1


Thanks. I'm gonna check it out right now :)


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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 11:22 am 
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dunkaist wrote:
Liza binary can be found here. It turned to not be in ISO, I don't know why (I'm not the author).
Perhaps, questions about Liza should go to its topic.

qoniq wrote:
I can't have proper web surfing. It keeps looking up stuff in Russian
Well, I managed to change that starting page by following links but I confirm that you can't just type in a URL and press <enter>.

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qoniq wrote:
it collapses everytime I do a word search with Ctrl+Enter. The window just disappears. I tried to give the system 128Mbs of ram but that didn't work. Netsurf keeps disappearing when I scroll down
Unfortunately, ashmew2 (the author) didn't visit this board for more than a year, so don't expect a fast fix.

qoniq wrote:
I can find no icon once downloaded it from nsinstall.
There is no icon, only the binary itself at /tmp0/1/.


thanks for the infos and the time you spent to help me. I really appreciate


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:59 pm 
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My answer would be: NO.

Although KolibriOS is very impressive, it's not usable for day to day work. Biggest drawback is that the web browser (Netsurf) isn't really usable since it doesn't support JavaScript, and these days almost ALL websites use and need JavaScript.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:35 pm 
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DigDug wrote:
My answer would be: NO.

My own answer is "surely yes"

- I use Kolibri-A at work virtually every day
as a h/w testbench
for new hardware development and verification


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:02 pm 
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DigDug wrote:
My answer would be: NO.

Although KolibriOS is very impressive, it's not usable for day to day work. Biggest drawback is that the web browser (Netsurf) isn't really usable since it doesn't support JavaScript, and these days almost ALL websites use and need JavaScript.


It is difficult to expect much from the system if there is not even NTFS support... :?
But the worst thing is that it is difficult to run on real hardware. :?
JavaScript is not the biggest problem. The OS was created in assembler and as I understand it created for assembler : Education, Hardware exploration ... etc. 8)

DOS is too old to learn Assembly language. IMHO on Windows, learning assembler is also not very convenient.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:15 pm 
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Evgeniy

1) NTFS is supported in KolibriOS.

2) it easily runs on a real h/w

3) beeing an electronic engineer, I know how difficult it is to find a good open-source exokernel OS for PC
(many teams are still using MS DOS as an exoOS!!).
But I know some companies who choose Kolibri as a most convenient platform for their hardware-related projects


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