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What's the goal?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:28 pm
by DigDug
I was wondering: what is the GOAL of the KolibriOS project?

If the goal is to show that with assembly you can build a graphical, superfast and small relatively complete desktop operating system, then it has already succeeded.

If the goal is to build a desktop operating system to compete with Windows or Linux than it has a long way to go.

Is there a roadmap for KolibriOS?

Re: What's the goal?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:46 pm
by maxcodehack

Re: What's the goal?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:34 pm
by DigDug
Sorry, but I'm not from Soviet Russia and can't read this.

Re: What's the goal?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:46 pm
by rgimad
DigDug wrote:Sorry, but I'm not from Soviet Russia and can't read this.
but you can use google translate..

Re: What's the goal?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:50 pm
by DigDug
Why does NetSurf have a much higher priority than Firefox? Netsurf is very limiited in that it doesn't support JavaScript and almost all websites require this today for proper functioning.

If I were you I'd give top priority to porting Firefox or some other mainline browser.

Re: What's the goal?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:00 pm
by maxcodehack
Netsurf easy to port, firefox "in dreams"

Re: What's the goal?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:01 pm
by DigDug
So I assume you want to make a desktop operating system that can compete with Windows, Mac OS X or Linux?

I admire your skill and bravery, but I believe it's an exercise in futility, much like Wine (the Windows re-implementation on Linux). You could spend years trying to get to the point where the feature set is a MVP (mimimal viable product) compared to Windows.

Why not try to occupy a niche? Like a minimal desktop client for RDP (remote desktop protocol) or an ultra-small server operating system focused on webservers or cloud. Or an IoT operating system. Or a router operating system.

Re: What's the goal?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:02 pm
by DigDug
maxcodehack wrote:Netsurf easy to port, firefox "in dreams"
But can you at least port a version of Netsurf which has JavaScript support?

Re: What's the goal?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:07 pm
by maxcodehack
DigDug wrote:Why not try to occupy a niche?
We can use KolibriOS in BIOS, and other:
See http://board.kolibrios.org/viewforum.php?f=25
Use translater)

Re: What's the goal?

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:46 am
by Evgeniy
DigDug wrote: If the goal is to show that with assembly you can build a graphical, superfast and small relatively complete desktop operating system, then it has already succeeded.
Now it is difficult to call it a full-fledged operating system, because to run it on a PC, you need either a virtual machine, or need old computer with floppy drive or need "dancing with a tambourine".

Re: What's the goal?

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:34 am
by maxcodehack
Very easy use KolibriOS on HDD, CD or flash drive.
Floppy is exotic now)

Re: What's the goal?

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:08 pm
by Evgeniy
maxcodehack wrote:Very easy use KolibriOS ... flash drive.
I'm try to run it on UEFI "Yes" very "easy"...

http://board.kolibrios.org/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=3270
dunkaist wrote:
  1. Create GPT layout on your flash device.
  2. Create EFI System Partition (ESP) on it.
  3. Format ESP as FAT32.
  4. Make /EFI/BOOT directory on ESP.
  5. Edit kolibri.ini file according to your needs.
  6. Copy kolibri.efi as /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI.
  7. Copy kolibri.{krn,img.ini} files to /EFI/BOOT/.
  8. Optionally, copy DEVICES.DAT file to /EFI/BOOT/.
Files kolibri.* and DEVICES.DAT are mentioned in the above posts.

Re: What's the goal?

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:12 pm
by maxcodehack

Re: What's the goal?

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:02 pm
by Evgeniy
Thats not work. And im not have Linux for install Kolibrios...

Re: What's the goal?

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:38 pm
by Evgeniy
I'm run it in VirtualBox 5.22... Sadly but these are the realities.