Help to install KolibriOS, to hard disk.

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  • danielsoy
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    So something is wrong with SIV maybe, because it takes me to the same ¨PCI devices¨ screen,
    when i make click in ¨PCI Bus¨ button.

    Here in Argentina is around 20:00 PM, but guess its beyond night in your country, and I do not want to bother more for now.

    ¨see u ¨ tomorrow.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hztJ0-m ... XjnaJuUtSQ
  • danielsoy
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    update:

    Booting via MeOSload, same results like obtained with mtldr...

    Trying to run 9x2klbr, got ¨Cannot load driver¨ error.

    Win 95 says nothing about what driver is about.
  • danielsoy
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    Linux like arrow cursor, may scroll screen all around, look.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ocg3uNd ... e=youtu.be
  • Mario_r4 Kernel Developer
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    danielsoy
    Can you use a CD/DVD?
    http://builds.kolibrios.org/eng/svn4701-iso.7z
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  • 0CodErr
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    danielsoy wrote:Linux like arrow cursor, may scroll screen all around, look.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ocg3uNd ... e=youtu.be
    It seems like ega\cga video mode is selected.
  • danielsoy
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    Mario_r4 wrote:danielsoy
    Can you use a CD/DVD?
    http://builds.kolibrios.org/eng/svn4701-iso.7z
    Hi Mario, I can´t.

    This Extensa 355, don´t even has a working flopy disk drive.
    Use parallel port cable direct connection , to load apps from another PC.

    May be I could try to take HDD to another PC, to install KolibriOS.
  • danielsoy
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    0CodErr wrote:
    danielsoy wrote:Linux like arrow cursor, may scroll screen all around, look.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ocg3uNd ... e=youtu.be
    It seems like ega\cga video mode is selected.

    Hi 0CodErr, thats right. Already tried 256 with no luck.
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    yogev_ezra Public Relations
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    Mario_r4 wrote:danielsoy
    Can you use a CD/DVD?
    http://builds.kolibrios.org/eng/svn4701-iso.7z
    It seems that his problem is IDE controller, not boot loader or selected resolution. MTLDR works fine - problem starts when kernel is already booting.
    As I wrote before, it looks like his IDE controller has some bug that was reported also to Haiku: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/6996
    He already provided a full Everest report: download/file.php?id=5965
    And his IDE controller is:

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    |0 - 11 - 0|10B9-5229-00000000-00   hdc      Controlador estándar doble PCI IDE
  • Mario_r4 Kernel Developer
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    yogev_ezra
    Thank you very much, but I read all the previous posts and I fully understand what is at stake.
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  • danielsoy
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    As I wrote before, it looks like his IDE controller has some bug

    Thanks for point that, will try to install it taking hard disk to another PC.
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    yogev_ezra Public Relations
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    danielsoy wrote:As I wrote before, it looks like his IDE controller has some bug

    Thanks for point that, will try to install it taking hard disk to another PC.
    The problem is not in the disk itself, so it will not help. The problem is in IDE controller that connects the hard disk to the PC.
    So you could try to find another IDE controller on a PCI card, and connect your hard disk to that controller.
    Like this one: http://images.geeksimages.com/imageshar ... K-unit.jpg
    But it's not guaranteed that your BIOS can boot from that PCI card.
  • danielsoy
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    OK :|

    So will buy another old notebook, that has no IDE bugs.

    Thanks to all for help. :wink:
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    CleverMouse Kernel Developer
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    When booting via mtldr, select "[e] Floppy image: use already loaded image", because mtldr itself loads kolibri.img, there is no need to do this second time from the kernel.
    Anyway, if there are no VESA videomodes in [a], there is probably not many sense in using KolibriOS in the first place - both 256-color graphics in 320x200 and 16-color graphics look quite awful.
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  • buyerninety
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    yogev_ezra said: "problem starts when kernel is already booting."... "it looks like his IDE controller has some bug..."
    "He already provided a full Everest report:"     download/file.php?id=5965

    Here is further hearsay that the ALi M5229 IDE controller (which acts as member of the ALi M1531/M1533 chipset in)
    danielsoys TI/Acer Extensa 355 notebook, causes problems: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-3 ... t-dma.html
    The ALi M5229 IDE controller which is part of the ALi 1533 and 1543 chipsets is extremely buggy.
    Only the M5229 version used in the 1543C (C stands for 'corrected') chipset is safe to use with
    UltraDMA transfers, as well as certain revisions of the 1543 chipset. However ALi never made available
    a list of which M5229 revisions are safe. From my experience, the revisions 0xC2, 0xC3 and 0xC4 are safe
    to use with UDMA. The 0x20 revision is not safe, and expect data corruption and data loss if you try {using} it
    {with UDMA}. That's why all Linux kernels after 2.4.17 (if I remember correctly) disable UDMA on the buggy revisions....
    (sometimes higher {good} revisions don't get correctly detected, so the driver falls back to assuming revision 0x20).
    But, again, this is extremely unsafe... My advice is...
    stick to {set to use} Multiword DMA modes on those {good} controllers (the relevant hdparm parameter is -X mdma2,
    although the kernel libata should enable that all by itself). It's better to have your data accessed in a slower fashion
    than to risk losing your data completely.
    (So if I understand above last sentences, his advice in the general case is to always set an M5229 IDE Controller to
    Multiword Mode 2, so it cannot use UDMA modes - but we do not have to take such advice for Linux (and Windows)
    which should recognize the good and the bad Revisions.)

    About danielsoys TI/Acer Extensa 355 notebook;
    The Everest.log does not clearly display to me that Win95 was using MultiWord Mode 2 (ATA-2),
    as I would have thought that a DMA assignment should be visible for the channel the Hard Drive is on.
    Incidently, the IBM DDLA-21620 Hard Drive that is being used can have up to PIO 4 or MultiWord Mode 2 speed
    http://www.hgst.com/tech/techlib.nsf/te ... dla_ps.pdf
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_A ... A_revision
    - so is KolibriOS usable with MultiWord Mode 2? and if not could it be set so e.g. PIO 4 is used instead?
    Last edited by buyerninety on Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:43 am, edited 4 times in total.
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