translate kolibri

Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:22 pm

I'm not able to get an executable even with the original source code...

It's ok, you've really got executable file. I mean _kolibri_ executable. file knows nothing about such a file type since it isn't elf format (a.out or whatever) which is used by most unix-like systems. Try "hexdump -C -n 8 filename":

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[dunkaist@ddesk download]$ hexdump -C -n 8 /mnt/work/proj/kolibri/svn/programs/games/15/trunk/15
00000000  4d 45 4e 55 45 54 30 31                           |MENUET01|
00000008
[dunkaist@ddesk download]$ hexdump -C -n 8 /mnt/work/proj/kolibri/svn/data/eng/games/15 
00000000  4b 50 43 4b 26 04 00 00                           |KPCK&...|
00000008

They are both kolibri executables: the first file is unpacked, the second one is packed. Hey, just run qemu and run your modified program. That's the best way to test any changes.

where do I submit the translations/code I wrote?

First of all, attach modified source and may be binary file to your next post. Someone will look them through (I hope) and if all is ok you'll be given a write access to our svn repository.

Good luck, keep going!

Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:58 pm

Great, it works!

Ok, now I have 4 (+1) other questions:

1) I saw that some programs are writenn in c-- (never heard of it before...), and the include path are in "windows-style", for example \lib\, in GNU the path are, for example /lib/, so i get error during compilation. How do I solve that problem? (and I should also look for a c-- compiler...)

2) which are the file relative to the gui of kolibri? For example the menu and so on.

3) Can i compile with the same source code the programs for a GNU/Linux system? For example the game 15? Theretically i should be able to test the programs also in my system...

4) not all source codes do have an if-else for the language, for example some programs written in c-- and others, I do not know anyhting about this language, how do I check, generally speaking, the language?

5) Do most programmers write thei programs on windows? Can't immagine why there are batch files to be executed...

Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:33 pm

1) You can find с-- compiler at SVN, I don't sure where is it, but I think it is. Sorry, it's closed-source, and you should use wine to start it
2) Menu is /programs/system/@menu; panel is programs/system/@panel. As for menu, you don't need to fix sources - all you need is located in MENU.DAT
3) If program is written in C - you __theoretically__ can do such thing. But it's like "I want to develop windows application in my linux, and I need a way to launch them inside linux". There's "KlbrInWin" for windows, and you can use it in Linux with wine - but why? Qemu is very fast tool for testing.
4) There's no way to do such things, sorry

You have to make translation and diff-file for it for such cases... %)
5) I don't sure, but I think there's 50/50 Linux/Windows. Bat-files are for Windows, and there's Makefile for entire project for Linux.

Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:41 pm

1) oh...what a pity
2) sorry, but i'm not able to find the menu.dat file... and what is kpack? I was not able to find it via google (i found something with package manager and KDE, but i doubt that it has something to do with it)
3) Yeah, your're right, but i thought that the programs would not have dependencies (because I'm able to compile them on my gnu/linux box), and so I thought that it would be possible to run them on different operating systems.

Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:33 am

1) I'll check my HD and send you local copy of my C--
2) MENU.DAT is /data/eng/menu.dat and /data/rus/menu.dat
kpack is /programs/other/kpack - there's versions for linux and kolibri
3) Those dependencies are syscalls and some Kolibri libraries sometimes.

Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:55 pm

OK, thank you very much

I have one last problem (I hope so

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This is a part of my bashrc:

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alias fasm='/opt/fasm/fasm'

If I compile something using the command fasm, it works as expected, but if I launche a scriptfile, fore example build.sh:

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#!/bin/bash
# This script does for linux the same as build.bat for DOS,
# it compiles the KoOS kernel, hopefully ;-)
fasm -m 16384 kpack.asm kpack.o
gcc	-s -nostdlib kpack.o -o kpack -lc
strip -R .comment -R .gnu.version kpack
exit 0

the it says that he is not able to find the command fasm. But it is not a great deal, I can compile it manually.

The big deal is that i have a 64 bit PC, so, when i give the command

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gcc -s -nostdlib kpack.o -o kpack -lc

i get

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/usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `kpack.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status

I gave a look at the source code of kpack, maybe I should change "executable elf" in something like "executable elf64", but i always get an invalid argument error...

Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:04 pm

You have to install i386-libs and bintools, or install wine and use windows kpack, or use kpack for Kolibri.

Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:27 am

SoUrcerer wrote:You have to install i386-libs and bintools

What distribution are you using? I've searched a lot but was not able to find packages with these names for debian based distribution.

I've installed the ia32-libs package, but it does not seem to help.
Solution seems to add -m32 to gcc, and I got the following error:

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/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc

wich is pretty strange. In the man the -lc option is not described.

If you search on the web, most people on RHEL seems to solve the problem installing the package glibc-static, which is not provided in debian; in debian you have to reinstall the following package: libc6-dev-i386
as stated here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-glibc/20 ... 00182.html

and now it'll compile! Finally!

How can I test the translated menu?
I copied the structure of /data/eng/menu.dat in /data/it/menu.dat, created the build_it.bat, compiled and everything...

Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:32 am

Have you tried to edit "kolibri.img" file? As for now, it's main OS file, like vmlinuz in Linux. This image contains kernel and minimal system (i.e. all what you see in your /rd/1/ directory).So, file "menu.dat" should be located at /rd/1/menu.dat. You can install mtools and copy this file to image:
mcopy -moi /path/to/kolibri.img menu.dat ::menu.dat

Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:48 pm

Ok, time to share some translations ^_^

I've attached the menu.dat file and the game 15.

Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:48 am

I've also added to arcanii an if-switch for changing language during compilation.

Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:42 am

It's better to use vars or definitions, except inline translation of every phrase. For example:

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if lang eq ru
hello db 'Введите полный путь к файлу и нажмите Enter',0
bad_file_sys db 'Неизвестная файловая система',0 ; 3
file_not_find db 'Файл не найден',0              ; 5
bad_fat_table db 'Таблица FAT разрушена',0       ; 9
acces_denyied db 'Доступ запрещен',0             ; 10
device_error db 'Ошибка устройства',0            ; 11
out_of_memory db 'Недостаточно памяти',0         ; 30
file_not_executable db 'Файл не является исполняемым',0 ; 31
many_processes db 'Слишком много процессов',0    ; 32
run_ok db 'Программа успешно запущена',0
grab_text db 'Запуск программы',0
run_but_text db 'ЗАПУСТИТЬ',0
else
hello db 'Enter full path to file and press <Enter>',0
bad_file_sys db 'Unknown file system',0                ; 3
file_not_find db 'File not found',0                    ; 5
bad_fat_table db 'FAT table corrupted',0               ; 9
acces_denyied db 'Access denied',0                     ; 10
device_error db 'Device error',0                       ; 11
out_of_memory db 'Out of memory',0                     ; 30
file_not_executable db 'File is not executable',0      ; 31
many_processes db 'Too many processes',0               ; 32
run_ok db 'The program was started successfully',0
grab_text db 'RUN',0
run_but_text db 'RUN',0
end if

Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:23 pm

Leency, as far as I can see, this approach is used in Italian translations

So, fedesco, good job!

Please, continue to make translation

It is possible to make autobuild for Italian version later

Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:33 pm

Leency wrote:It's better to use vars or definitions, except inline translation of every phrase. For example:

You are right, but I do not know the assembly syntax, i just tried it (in the program arcanii), tested it and it worked.
I do not have any idea how to do what you are suggesting.

Of course in the game 15 there where the vars or definitions, so I've done exactly what you are suggesting, but in the game arcanii there was only the english language.

Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:52 pm

You can add absolutely same thing to arcanii

Just add " inlude 'lang.inc' " at the start of code.

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