What's the goal?
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Author:  aaronbossig [ Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the goal?

I found Kolibri while looking for alternatives to Linux, and especially to Windows. I have a lot of cases where I have functional low-powered hardware and would like something that could run on it for web browsing, etc. Ubuntu used to fill that void but it has gotten pretty big in recent years.

Author:  MustardMan [ Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the goal?

Agree, Ubuntu has become rather bloated of late.

I have been using 'Puppy Linux' on a small underpowered laptop (700MHz) for almost a decade, and it runs very well. Boots from SD rather slow (about a minute). I am using a really old version (which suits me - I use it for word processing). The old version I have can't auto-update the web browser (Opera?) so I can no longer use it on modern web sites (the encryption standards / certificates are too new).

All that said, I believe the latest versions of Puppy Linux are about the same size (approx 250MB) and are capable of much better things (work on latest hardware, use latest software).

HOWEVER, my interest in Kolibri is as an ULTRA-small GUI OS. Fast to boot - faster than MSDOS 3.2 was back in the day... with my intent to run it on even more ridiculously underpowered hardware (400MHz 486).

I think my only complaint is that modern embedded hardware moved away from the x86 processor architecture long ago, and because Kolibri is ASM, to my knowledge it will forever be stuck on x86 platforms - which are becoming rarer by the day (good riddance to that platform, sad that it's going to take Kolibri with it)


Author:  macgub [ Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the goal?

....and because Kolibri is ASM, to my knowledge it will forever be stuck on x86 platforms.

I use Kolibri on x64 i5 2th gen, hdd acces via bios, sound OK, usb, 1080x1920 - honey and nuts - ... runs better and see better hardware than some other OSes. 8)

Author:  MustardMan [ Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the goal?

Apologies - I should have been a bit more specific... I should have said x86 derived platforms, which from my understanding, the x64 is.

My comment comes from a question posed several years back about whether Kolibri would run on a Raspberri Pi - the answer being 'no', because Ras-Pi was based on an ARM platform.

I am not into 'enough-power-to-run-a-small-town' processors, and the Pi seems like something with enough grunt to run some pretty cool stuff, but not so much it needs a honkin' great heatsink with whirling fans of death bolted to it, or heatpipes from hell to keep it cool. With the speed users now expect of their hardware, I would have thought 'low end' devices like the Pi would have been a pretty obvious target for Kolibri.

But then ARM would have been a pretty small player when Kolibri was first forked (and I note Menuet is still an x86 / x64 based OS).

I agree, there is no sign of x64 ever dying in the desktop market, and probably the same for laptops too. But not tablets or phones. Although there have been significant advances in power consumption embedded devices gave away x86/x64 long ago because of their huge power requirements, and once some other CPUs got in, Intel and AMD have continued to lose ground. Well, from what I've seen anyway :wink:


PS: That's why hell is so hot - all those heatpipes have to go somewhere!!

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