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 Post subject: Newbie ask help
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:30 pm 
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Hello to all !

I am very well interested into Kolibri, who seems really interesting, and would like to install it on a 512 Usb Key
But, as i am not a god in coding, i am a bit lost between img, kernel, etc... (the only language i know is Bash -_- )

As i had problem with instructions under GNU/Linux (Distribution : Arch Linux) i choosed to try via Windows XP.
I downloaded the kolibri-something.7z (a not very Linux friendly format, uh),
renamed the kolibri.iso inside kolibri.img (as instructions only talks about kolibri.img...)
and used the ins.exe i found somewhere on the internet a time ago (it's not my first try) with a previous version of kolibri and many strange files
copied the img to USB flash drive, hoping it's enough

But, after this, kolibriOS won't boot : needs a "kernel.mnt".
Where can i have this kernel.mnt ? Is there many steps after ?

I cannot find proper instructions to follow, they all sounds a bit creepy, speaking of MBR, compiling, dd, etc etc.. And time presses me to find, i go to a trip soon and would very appreciate to take a look at kolib' before going to it...
If i understand how it works, then i should write a tutoriel for newbies, if it can help other peoples like me...

do someone can help me ?
(note : i know a bit, but really a bit, of russian. Enough to read cyrillic and understand some words... But the rest sounds gibberish to me, as i stopped learning this beautiful language T_T )


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 Post subject: Re: Newbie ask help
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:52 pm 
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Konwhald wrote:
renamed the kolibri.iso inside kolibri.img (as instructions only talks about kolibri.img...)

ISO and IMG are different things. ISO is for CD and IMG is for HD/FD. You should have kolibri.img inside ISO file, but anyway you'd better download newest IMG build: http://builds.kolibrios.org/eng/

Everything else looks fine though :D So, you'll get Kolibri booted soon, I hope. :)

Although, didn't you tried officialTM guides to USB boot from http://kolibrios.org ? http://kolibrios.org/f/releases/kolibri ... _img_en.7z - they're inside. There's at least 3 ways to install Kolibri on your USB stick.

Btw, you're welcome! :)


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 Post subject: Re: Newbie ask help
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:28 pm 
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Yup, i just found the img in your first link and put it on my key. With the MTLD-whatever.
My optical USb mouse don't works, so i played around with Alt+Tab and this useful thing under Linux that is the "windows"-key (hey, it works on kolibri =D cool), launching some stuff.
You did a great job =) i wonder how will be the evolution of Kolibri.

The installation is quite disturbing. Why are files for installation packed with many stuff inside a iso, inside a 7z ? 7z isn't accessible at all for Linux, and iso, not naturally for windows. I did not find any img inside when i downloaded it, or in the rar i found times ago with installations files
I really got a bit lost, with instructions themselves, hidden somewhere in the iso =(
Another thing quite disturbing is that it needs 30s to boot properly. For an OS of 3kb...

Kolibri is a nice OS with a nice feeling. Design sometimes (like scroll bars) gives a horrible feeling of TinyCore (linux) or windows 3.1 but the OS itself has so much as Slitaz (who needs 12x memory :p ).
Is it persistent, installed on a key ? Can you use it for daily usage, or is Kolibri too young for it ?

anyway, even if i don't program in asm and there are many features i do not needs or understand at all, i like kolibriOs a lot =) keep up the good work !

...(Hmm, i think, i'll install it in russian :p it will make me practicing a bit ^^ )

Thanks to you SoUrcerer :D thanks a lot to all the team !


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 Post subject: Re: Newbie ask help
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:44 pm 
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Konwhald wrote:
My optical USb mouse don't works, so i played around with Alt+Tab and this useful thing under Linux that is the "windows"-key (hey, it works on kolibri =D cool), launching some stuff.

You can use cool USB-drivers, just tell us more about your PC and mouse. Also, there's mouse emulator.

Konwhald wrote:
The installation is quite disturbing. Why are files for installation packed with many stuff inside a iso, inside a 7z ? 7z isn't accessible at all for Linux, and iso, not naturally for windows. I did not find any img inside when i downloaded it, or in the rar i found times ago with installations files
I really got a bit lost, with instructions themselves, hidden somewhere in the iso =(

I think we'll fix it soon.

Konwhald wrote:
Another thing quite disturbing is that it needs 30s to boot properly. For an OS of 3kb...

30 seconds? WEIRD! My normal boot time is about 2-3 seconds. Something wrong with your install, probably.

Konwhald wrote:
Is it persistent, installed on a key ? Can you use it for daily usage, or is Kolibri too young for it ?

Yep, it is. If you don't need internet, then you can use Kolibri easily. If you need it, then you should wait for full-featured browser, or use text-based browser HTMLv. There's video player, nes|zsnes emulators, as well as PlayStation and DosBox.


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